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		<title>Comment on Calling all questions for the consultants by Rebecca McNelly</title>
		<link>http://www.downtownwichita.org/blog/2009/09/11/calling-all-questions-for-the-consultants/comment-page-1/#comment-165</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebecca McNelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 00:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all I could kiss the person who made the last post, I heartily agree. Also, I wish I would have seen this sooner. But here are my questions anyway:

1. Alex Garvin an experienced urban planner made a comparative speech of Wichita&#039;s downtown to other River Cities of its size. Garvin mentioned the seriousness of us being a vehicle driven traffic market, how the lack of pedestrianizing our streets, and updating local transit, could be the detriment of projects as a whole.

 -- How do you plan to incorporate pedestrian friendly routes by way of streets, transit system, and bicycle friendliness?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all I could kiss the person who made the last post, I heartily agree. Also, I wish I would have seen this sooner. But here are my questions anyway:</p>
<p>1. Alex Garvin an experienced urban planner made a comparative speech of Wichita&#8217;s downtown to other River Cities of its size. Garvin mentioned the seriousness of us being a vehicle driven traffic market, how the lack of pedestrianizing our streets, and updating local transit, could be the detriment of projects as a whole.</p>
<p> &#8212; How do you plan to incorporate pedestrian friendly routes by way of streets, transit system, and bicycle friendliness?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Calling all questions for the consultants by Alden Wilner</title>
		<link>http://www.downtownwichita.org/blog/2009/09/11/calling-all-questions-for-the-consultants/comment-page-1/#comment-158</link>
		<dc:creator>Alden Wilner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see you have no comments yet. So I&#039;ll pose several questions, in case no one shows up. I know I can&#039;t make it. :-(

Consider the notion of &quot;human scale&quot; versus &quot;automotive scale&quot; development and the obvious fact that Wichita, KS is designed for cars.

Question 1: Is it really a downtown if people just drive in, park, do one thing, and leave? How does that experience differ from a visit to a strip mall?

Question 2: Isn&#039;t the whole purpose of downtown to be a place where people hang out and walk around? Doesn&#039;t it _have_ to be built at human scale?

Question 3: Can a vital downtown be built with a public transit system that shuts down at 6 PM?

Question 4: Is there, in fact, any need for an actual downtown in a car-centric town with unlimited space and an infinite supply of gasoline?

Question 5: How will you convince Wichitans to use your downtown as a _real_ downtown and not as another strip mall or theme park? 

Question 6: If your plan is chosen, what will the city, county and state need to do to maximize its chances of success? 

P.S. FWIW, my answer to the last question is this: We should gradually shift the tax burden away from income, sales and property, and toward &quot;moving stuff around&quot;: gasoline taxes, toll roads, mileage-based taxation, car registration and driving licenses. Most of the driving in this country is unnecessary and adds literally nothing to our GDP. I would rather tax highways to pay for schools than tax food to pay for highways. Or arenas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see you have no comments yet. So I&#8217;ll pose several questions, in case no one shows up. I know I can&#8217;t make it. <img src='http://www.downtownwichita.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Consider the notion of &#8220;human scale&#8221; versus &#8220;automotive scale&#8221; development and the obvious fact that Wichita, KS is designed for cars.</p>
<p>Question 1: Is it really a downtown if people just drive in, park, do one thing, and leave? How does that experience differ from a visit to a strip mall?</p>
<p>Question 2: Isn&#8217;t the whole purpose of downtown to be a place where people hang out and walk around? Doesn&#8217;t it _have_ to be built at human scale?</p>
<p>Question 3: Can a vital downtown be built with a public transit system that shuts down at 6 PM?</p>
<p>Question 4: Is there, in fact, any need for an actual downtown in a car-centric town with unlimited space and an infinite supply of gasoline?</p>
<p>Question 5: How will you convince Wichitans to use your downtown as a _real_ downtown and not as another strip mall or theme park? </p>
<p>Question 6: If your plan is chosen, what will the city, county and state need to do to maximize its chances of success? </p>
<p>P.S. FWIW, my answer to the last question is this: We should gradually shift the tax burden away from income, sales and property, and toward &#8220;moving stuff around&#8221;: gasoline taxes, toll roads, mileage-based taxation, car registration and driving licenses. Most of the driving in this country is unnecessary and adds literally nothing to our GDP. I would rather tax highways to pay for schools than tax food to pay for highways. Or arenas.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Council Approves Master Plan Funding by Eric</title>
		<link>http://www.downtownwichita.org/blog/2009/05/05/council-approves-master-plan-funding/comment-page-1/#comment-9</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 21:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s great news.  Wichita is in dire need of an efficient public transit system.  We&#039;re the only city in the nation of this size that doesn&#039;t have one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s great news.  Wichita is in dire need of an efficient public transit system.  We&#8217;re the only city in the nation of this size that doesn&#8217;t have one.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Stakeholder, Resident and Believer by John Buaas</title>
		<link>http://www.downtownwichita.org/blog/2009/04/24/builders-inc-contributes-to-downtown-comprehensive-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-7</link>
		<dc:creator>John Buaas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 20:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had left a comment here earlier, but it seems to have disappeared.

In response to Larry&#039;s questions: The weekly shopping trip is a product of the rise of the suburbs, when people moved to houses further away both from work and from the older-style &quot;corner grocery.&quot;  Supermarkets HAD to be bigger to serve larger numbers of shoppers there for longer periods of time.  But a store or stores downtown would experience a different dynamic from the suburban stores.  If the WDDC is truly serious about making downtown truly livable, then it has to reimagine it as a space where people will truly LIVE there--as opposed to just sleeping or being entertained there.  A few smaller, full-service grocery stores (not Quik Trips, not &quot;smokes and liquor&quot; places, not &quot;gourmet&quot; stores, and not a Dillons) in the area would mean more frequent but smaller--and, thus, walkable/bike-able--shopping trips for residents.  This would also mean that stores would not need to provide as many parking spaces--the vast majority of people visiting them would walk or bike there.  Here&#039;s what I would hope the WDDC will keep in mind on this issue: If downtown residents still have to drive two miles to do their full-service shopping, what advantage is there for people to move downtown?  It becomes just another bedroom community--and a more expensive one than the suburbs.

I would also encourage people to make accommodations in their traffic planning for cyclists, pedestrians (dedicated bike lanes and safer sidewalks), and, perhaps, alternate means of public transportation such as trolleys.  I also think that some of the area&#039;s less-used streets could be closed to car traffic and converted to pedestrian malls with a combination of various retail and commercial outlets and housing--a combination of already-existing single-family dwellings and multifamily dwellings.  Such features, I think, would both make the area truly livable for residents and attract visitors to a distinctive part of town.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had left a comment here earlier, but it seems to have disappeared.</p>
<p>In response to Larry&#8217;s questions: The weekly shopping trip is a product of the rise of the suburbs, when people moved to houses further away both from work and from the older-style &#8220;corner grocery.&#8221;  Supermarkets HAD to be bigger to serve larger numbers of shoppers there for longer periods of time.  But a store or stores downtown would experience a different dynamic from the suburban stores.  If the WDDC is truly serious about making downtown truly livable, then it has to reimagine it as a space where people will truly LIVE there&#8211;as opposed to just sleeping or being entertained there.  A few smaller, full-service grocery stores (not Quik Trips, not &#8220;smokes and liquor&#8221; places, not &#8220;gourmet&#8221; stores, and not a Dillons) in the area would mean more frequent but smaller&#8211;and, thus, walkable/bike-able&#8211;shopping trips for residents.  This would also mean that stores would not need to provide as many parking spaces&#8211;the vast majority of people visiting them would walk or bike there.  Here&#8217;s what I would hope the WDDC will keep in mind on this issue: If downtown residents still have to drive two miles to do their full-service shopping, what advantage is there for people to move downtown?  It becomes just another bedroom community&#8211;and a more expensive one than the suburbs.</p>
<p>I would also encourage people to make accommodations in their traffic planning for cyclists, pedestrians (dedicated bike lanes and safer sidewalks), and, perhaps, alternate means of public transportation such as trolleys.  I also think that some of the area&#8217;s less-used streets could be closed to car traffic and converted to pedestrian malls with a combination of various retail and commercial outlets and housing&#8211;a combination of already-existing single-family dwellings and multifamily dwellings.  Such features, I think, would both make the area truly livable for residents and attract visitors to a distinctive part of town.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Stakeholder, Resident and Believer by John Buaas</title>
		<link>http://www.downtownwichita.org/blog/2009/04/24/builders-inc-contributes-to-downtown-comprehensive-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>John Buaas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 00:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry,
Re your questions about grocery stores: the once-a-week grocery trip is a feature of the suburbs.  Rather than either Quik Trips or Dillon&#039;s, envision a few old-style small but full-service corner grocery stores, or perhaps something like a market area with separate sellers who specialize in produce, dairy, canned goods, meats, etc.  If the vision for downtown is that people really will LIVE there (as opposed to just sleep and be entertained there), then trips for groceries will be more frequent, and for fewer items.  People will be more likely to walk or bike to the store--which means that such stores would require less parking.
As a downtown resident myself, I want to see downtown become truly livable--not merely a place to sleep, but a place that can meet its residents&#039; most basic needs.  Downtown will not have been made more livable if people still have to drive more than 2 miles to buy the makings for a couple of decent meals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry,<br />
Re your questions about grocery stores: the once-a-week grocery trip is a feature of the suburbs.  Rather than either Quik Trips or Dillon&#8217;s, envision a few old-style small but full-service corner grocery stores, or perhaps something like a market area with separate sellers who specialize in produce, dairy, canned goods, meats, etc.  If the vision for downtown is that people really will LIVE there (as opposed to just sleep and be entertained there), then trips for groceries will be more frequent, and for fewer items.  People will be more likely to walk or bike to the store&#8211;which means that such stores would require less parking.<br />
As a downtown resident myself, I want to see downtown become truly livable&#8211;not merely a place to sleep, but a place that can meet its residents&#8217; most basic needs.  Downtown will not have been made more livable if people still have to drive more than 2 miles to buy the makings for a couple of decent meals.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Stakeholder, Resident and Believer by Larry Weber</title>
		<link>http://www.downtownwichita.org/blog/2009/04/24/builders-inc-contributes-to-downtown-comprehensive-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-5</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Weber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 21:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hear the request for a grocery store a lot and have a question.  Do those living downtown want a speciality store (more than a Quik trip) to pick or some items or are they looking for a Dillions?  If it is the Dillions would they actually walk to the store and do their weekly shopping then walk home with 10 or 12 grocery bags over their arms or would they drive to the store?  If they drive to the store is the 2 mile difference that major a factor (Douglas and Market to Douglas and Oliver) when your driving to either location due to the amount of groceries you have to bring home? Any input would be appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear the request for a grocery store a lot and have a question.  Do those living downtown want a speciality store (more than a Quik trip) to pick or some items or are they looking for a Dillions?  If it is the Dillions would they actually walk to the store and do their weekly shopping then walk home with 10 or 12 grocery bags over their arms or would they drive to the store?  If they drive to the store is the 2 mile difference that major a factor (Douglas and Market to Douglas and Oliver) when your driving to either location due to the amount of groceries you have to bring home? Any input would be appreciated.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Destination Downtown by Karen in Wichita</title>
		<link>http://www.downtownwichita.org/blog/2009/05/04/destination-downtown/comment-page-1/#comment-4</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen in Wichita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 02:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The number one reason I visit is pretty much &quot;because I live here,&quot; at least if you count Delano as downtown.

Aside from that, I visit downtown for my church, the main library (it&#039;ll make me ridiculously happy when it moves to the Delano Urban Village, practically my backyard), and events at Century II.

I used to work downtown, and walked to many little shops and restaurants around there on my lunch hours, but there&#039;s probably been 100% turnover in the years since, so I can&#039;t really name names there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The number one reason I visit is pretty much &#8220;because I live here,&#8221; at least if you count Delano as downtown.</p>
<p>Aside from that, I visit downtown for my church, the main library (it&#8217;ll make me ridiculously happy when it moves to the Delano Urban Village, practically my backyard), and events at Century II.</p>
<p>I used to work downtown, and walked to many little shops and restaurants around there on my lunch hours, but there&#8217;s probably been 100% turnover in the years since, so I can&#8217;t really name names there.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Stakeholder, Resident and Believer by local resident</title>
		<link>http://www.downtownwichita.org/blog/2009/04/24/builders-inc-contributes-to-downtown-comprehensive-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator>local resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 17:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One for the suggestion box. A grocery store for those who live downtown. At this time there is not one single place for residence to buy their food. Hopefully one is soon on it&#039;s way. 

My wife and I moved here a year and a half ago and love what you are doing with the city&#039;s center. It&#039;s a great place to visit and work. As soon as it has a food market it will be a GREAT place to live. Keep up the good work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One for the suggestion box. A grocery store for those who live downtown. At this time there is not one single place for residence to buy their food. Hopefully one is soon on it&#8217;s way. </p>
<p>My wife and I moved here a year and a half ago and love what you are doing with the city&#8217;s center. It&#8217;s a great place to visit and work. As soon as it has a food market it will be a GREAT place to live. Keep up the good work.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A Stakeholder, Resident and Believer by Larry Weber</title>
		<link>http://www.downtownwichita.org/blog/2009/04/24/builders-inc-contributes-to-downtown-comprehensive-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-2</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Weber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 02:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife grew up here in Wichita and I have been here since 1986 and I can tell you I have never been more excited about our future than I am today.  ALL groups of people young / old, culture minded or business minded are seeing the need to unite and formulate a comprehensive plan for the future of downtown, the heart of Wichita and Sedgwick County.  We are all beginning to see what many people from outside Wichita have said that we have a gem here that needs to be polished and refined.  For instance Old Town being named one of the top ten neighborhoods and now Wichita being named number 1 in the list of Top 25 Uniquely American Cities &amp; Towns by Newsmax.com.  These are tough times all of us are being effected in one way or another.  So let&#039;s be sure to not shy away from our responsibility to make today and all the tomorrows to come the very best for all the citizens of Sedgwick County.  PARTICIPATE GET ENGAGED!!  Give your feedback, ideas, and resources.  I look forward to reading each comment presented.
Larry Weber
Chairman WDDC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My wife grew up here in Wichita and I have been here since 1986 and I can tell you I have never been more excited about our future than I am today.  ALL groups of people young / old, culture minded or business minded are seeing the need to unite and formulate a comprehensive plan for the future of downtown, the heart of Wichita and Sedgwick County.  We are all beginning to see what many people from outside Wichita have said that we have a gem here that needs to be polished and refined.  For instance Old Town being named one of the top ten neighborhoods and now Wichita being named number 1 in the list of Top 25 Uniquely American Cities &amp; Towns by Newsmax.com.  These are tough times all of us are being effected in one way or another.  So let&#8217;s be sure to not shy away from our responsibility to make today and all the tomorrows to come the very best for all the citizens of Sedgwick County.  PARTICIPATE GET ENGAGED!!  Give your feedback, ideas, and resources.  I look forward to reading each comment presented.<br />
Larry Weber<br />
Chairman WDDC</p>
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